HMS Foyle
Experience with earlier types of destroyers had convinced the Navy that going just for speed was a delusion. What they really needed was a much tougher type of boat that could keep going at relatively high speeds when the weather got really rough. To this end the Navy commissioned a new type of destroyer that was to provide the bench marks for all future Navies, and designated it the River Class. Well over thirty were built before the Great War, and one of them was HMS Foyle.
H.M.S. Foyle
Laid down at Cammel Lairds shipyard in August 1902, the Foyle was launched in February of the following year and entered service thirteen months later in 1904. 225 feet long with a top speed of twenty five and a half knots, the Foyle was armed with four twelve pounder guns and two torpedo tubes. At first her slower speed (anything under thirty knots was considered very odd) caused some ill informed comment, but it was soon realised that the sturdiness of her design allowed her to maintain her top speed in all but the worst conditions, and soon her critics were silenced.
When War broke out the Foyle found herself performing patrol and escort duties in the killing ground of the Dover Straights. On the night of March 15th 1917 she hit a mine, and the force of the explosion blew away the whole of her bows forward of the bridge, killing twenty-seven of her crew of seventy. Unbelievably the stern half stayed afloat, and it was decided to tow this to Plymouth, presumably to graft on another bow. What the thoughts were of the tug crews who had to place the tow on a helpless drifting hulk in the middle of a potential minefield we can only guess, but eventually the tow was established and the Foyle was led away towards Plymouth. Alas there was to no happy ending. After surviving the minefield and slipping through a screen of marauding E boats, the salvage crew on the Foyle just could not keep up with the water pouring through her ruptured plates, and only a few miles from Plymouth HMS Foyle gave up the fight and sank in fifty meters of water miles off the Mewstone.
Sadly none of these are mine
One of the main troubles about diving on a wreck as deep as the Foyle is the lack of time that you can spend on her. If you are diving this wreck on a one off basis, then you really will not have a clue where you are on it unless you stumble onto the gun at the stern section, or blunder into the bridge. You really need to go with somebody who knows the wreck so that they can explain to you after the dive where you have been, or pray for uncharacteristically good visibility. Having said that, the one thing that anyone will recognise is the brass. On the few dives that I have done on this wreck everywhere that I have looked there seemed to be large lumps of non ferrous metal, either portholes (to firmly fixed for me) large copper pipes and brass valves, or on one occasion, what seemed to be the top of a binnacle.
The Foyle now lies on a sandy seabed with what appears to be a thirty-degree list. Most of the portside is buried in the sand and the rest of the hull has caved in. However her boilers seem to be mostly intact, although other divers say that one boiler is probably buried in the wreckage. At the bridge end is a great mound of iron plates and girders covered in shoals of swirling pollack and pounting. Somewhere in all that junk should be three of the Foyles twelve pounder guns, but I must confess I have never seen them. Lobsters abound on the wreck as do congers, and because the wreck is heavily fished by local anglers quite a bit of fishing gear is left lurking to entangle the unwary diver.
The Foyle's Telegraph
Somewhere towards the stern are the remains of the torpedo tubes. Back in the Sixties rumour has it that one of the Foyles torpedo tubes still had a torpedo left in it. When this torpedo was duly liberated and placed on dry land, the salvers became so blinkered as to the profit on the non ferrous metal, that they seemed to completely forget all about the couple of hundred pounds of Amatol explosive that was by now highly unstable.
When the Police arrived on the scene they found the scrappers gaily hacking at the torpedo with lump hammers and crowbars, with the explosive oozing out of the cracks that they had made. Seems unbelievable doesn't it? But as I say it is only a rumour.
The Foyle is probably the deepest wreck off Plymouth that you can still find just on the marks. But because she only stands up about fifteen feet from the seabed, and is such a long way down, a good echo sounder is really a necessity. Once you have found her you will be able to fine-tune the marks to suit your boat handling techniques, and then you should have no further trouble. If you can arrange a series of dives on the Foyle, so much the better as it is very frustrating to see something that you cannot get off in the short time available. In recent years local clubs have had some very impressive trophies from this wreck, but for the dedicated wrecker there is still an awful lot left.
I am extremely gratefull to Russel Peekfor this photo of his great grandfather Samuel Peek, who was a stoker on H.M.S.Foyle. Sadly he did not survive her sinking.
Stoker Peek is seen here with members of his family and wearing an 'H.M.S.Vengeance'cap tally
I am very grateful to Mark Lawrence for the photo and information below.

Able Seaman George Arthur Gander -191637- was serving aboard HMS Foyle, when she hit the mine. His body was not recovered. His wife Rose of Gillingham, Kent was notified of his death. He was born in Brighton in 1881.



















Ref: Public Records Office ADM 137/389. FOYLE was patrolling in the Western Channel when damaged, hence her tow to Plymouth. If she had been in the Dover Straits (note spelling) she would not have been towed all the way to Plymouth. She sank in 50 metres of water (in English, meters measure Amps, Volts etc.)
Otherwise an interesting site. Keep up the good work!
Wie heeft er foto’s voor mij van de H.M.S.Foyle?
Zelf ben ik in het bezit van de scheepsbel en zou graag wat foto’s van dit schip willen hebben.
Very interesting information but there was no mention of who the HMS Foyle was named after, any comments?
Foyle is a River class boat. the river Foyle is in Northern ireland
Found your article interesting.My father served on the Foyle a River class destroyer.I have a “Shiffs-Messbrief” which I think is the specification of German Schooner which whilst laying mines was engaged & sunk by the Foyle off the Isle of Sky on 4th Jan 1915.If anyone can throw any light on this subject I would be interested but please send any emails to my personal address although I have no objection to it being opied to this website.Many thanks.Terry Hillis
just been fishing over hms foyle
Re HMS Foyle. Recently there was an enquiry on this site concerning a crew member, AB HG SMITH, who was killed when the ship was mined in 1917. Could anyone supply the name and Email address of the enquirer? Thanks
I am looking for a john turnbull, not sure if this is the right one, did you used to live in south norwood?
Dear Peter and readers,
I hope you won’t mind me posting a quick enquiry here. I’m currently finishing an MSc course (Hydrographic survey) at Plymouth University and I’m planning on surveying the Foyle as part of my disseration. This will include ROV video footage, sidescan and other acoustic data, as well as collecting as much extant Admiralty detail (Home Waters telegrams, the court martial detail, etc. etc.) as possible from Kew (TNA). I’m more than willing to make all of this available to anyone interested, and wonder whether anybody has any information that may help build a comprehensive pitcure of the wreck – any artefacts recovered, pictures, accounts, dive notes, family records – anything! It would be nice to get as much recorded as possible, and if anyone is able to help, that would be great.
Many thanks,
Maeve
Just been doing some family research on the web.Found my uncle on the 1911 census website.
Leading Stoker Joseph Lee Aged 21, serving on HMS Foyle at anchor in Grimsby Roads.
I have a photograph of a distant relative: Able Seaman George Arthur Gander -191637- who killed when HMS Foyle was hit.